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Horrible bosses: How to get revenge on one

Prior to opening weekend, much of the hype around “Horrible Bosses” — the comedy based around three men who hate, and subsequently decide to kill, their bosses — stemmed from media headlines like “Jennifer Aniston Looks Great in her Underwear.”

While the actress, who had a starring role in the film, certainly did her underwear justice (we can’t deny it), we’ve got a bit of a different take on why the film raked in $28 million during its opening weekend.

Our hypothesis? Boss-aversion is pretty common, and an $8 movie ticket is a pretty cheap therapy session.

Besides the fact that we’ve talked to our fair share of workers about their flirty bosses, bossy bosses, idea-stealing bosses, stupid bosses and downright abusive bosses, empirical data also tells us that a lot of people have boss issues. A recent survey by Office Team found that nearly half of all workers said they’d worked for “unreasonable bosses.” Of these, 59 percent reported staying in their jobs anyway. (No word yet on how many of them hashed murder plots as a result.)

Bad bosses are not only a fairly common problem, but also — as demonstrated in the movie — one that can cause those under their management serious stress. Still — unlike in the movies – sane people don’t usually see murder as a viable problem-solving option.  But that also doesn’t mean sane people don’t like to get revenge — they just do it in a more subtle way.

“I was lucky enough to have the best possible retaliation against a boss, a corporate vice president,” says Barry Maher, a motivational speaker and author of the books “Filling the Glass” and “No Lie: Truth is the Ultimate Sales Tool.” “Even though I was one of his top people, when accounting told him I’d been slightly overpaid for a year, he decided the best course of action was to threaten me, throwing his weight around and issuing an ultimatum. Either I either paid the money back or he’d let me go. Since I considered myself underpaid, I simply resigned. Shocked and amazed, he immediately cut the amount of money I supposedly owed in half but I’d was immediately so relieved upon announcing my resignation, that I didn’t budge.”

Mere months later, Maher got the greatest kind of revenge there is in the corporate world — success. “After I left, I immediately began consulting, writing and speaking,” he says. “Within a year, the same company brought me in as a consultant, at a rate several times higher than the ‘overpayment’ rate. And a few years later, that very same VP got to sit in the audience and listen as I delivered the opening keynote at his new employer’s annual conference, for a daily fee that was considerably in excess of what I’d been ‘overpaid’ in a month when working for him.”

Ah, victory.

If you’ve got a terrible boss, doing well for yourself is probably the only kind of revenge you can get without jeopardizing your career (unless you want to be an author, in which case ‘jail time’ might be a nice premise for a memoir).

“Success and empowerment in your current and future job is certainly the sweetest revenge and can elevate you over the bad boss hump,” says Diane Gottsman, etiquette expert and owner of The Protocol School of Texas, a company that specializes in corporate etiquette training. She offers these tips for getting revenge the classy way, through success.

1. Don’t be a victim: If your boss is threatening to derail your career (whether she’s literally threatening you, or her actions are starting to compromise your sanity), decide to take your future into your own hands. “[Get a transfer] to another department away from your boss, and take whatever steps (emotionally and physically) to tune out the person’s behavior until you can find another job or corner office away from him or her,” Gottsman says.

2. Find a mentor: Your boss doesn’t have to be the only professional influence in your life. Choose a mentor who can be a positive, supportive figure in your career, as well as someone who can help you develop your skills. Your mentor will also be a valuable connection should you ultimately decide to change jobs.

3. Continue your professional training:  Take advantage of any opportunities to expand on your professional skill set, whether it’s finishing your degree, taking a class outside of work, joining a professional group, or even simply reading books or industry publications.

4. Write things down: “If you have a boss that constantly changes the direction of a project, immediately after your meeting, email an overview of his or her directives for confirmation, including a projected date of completion,” Gottsman says. “When your boss changes the terms you can refer to the original request and alter the deadline date as needed, based on the additional time it will take to go in another direction.”

Put these into practice and you’ll up your odds of success despite (and, ultimately, to spite) your horrible boss.

Do you have a bad boss? Tell us what he/she did, below.

Kaitlin Madden

About Kaitlin Madden

Kaitlin Madden is a writer and blogger for CareerBuilder. She spends her time at work thinking and writing about work, and thus views her workday as one big social experiment. Prior to joining CareerBuilder, she was a freelance writer and spent some time working in fashion in New York City. She hates meetings and honors her love of shoes with a large collection under her desk. Kaitlin hails from Connecticut and graduated from Northeastern University in Boston with a degree in journalism.
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rrapp88 5 pts

I have had two different supervisors who were difficult to the point of being career threatening. Not only were these people not good for ME, but they were not considered good staff members by THEIR own supervisors. Both people finally lost their own jobs. Ultimately, I waited them out and they disappeared. This process took a long time, but was definitely a benefit to an entire department of people. One additional note to our excellent writer/author: This particular blog needs a more thorough proofreading.

Satanismyboss 5 pts

What do I do when I work for a small company (only 12 employees), we all wear different hats so therefore I can't transfer and the ass hole I'm having problems with is the HR person?- Mind you she is TOTALLY unprofessional.  She leaves early, in working here 3 years I have never seen her lift a finger when it comes to her own work- she only delegates, she's lazy, dresses in pajamas (we work for a very esteemed ad agency), she does the "silent treatment", writes emails complaining about me, CC's me, and sends it to the owner. - I know he thinks she's dramatic but he is not one to go to about problems, he HATES drama. She walks around talking about herself all day- laughing really loud on purpose so you have to be torturered with her voice.  I really cant stand her anymore, I want to strangle her- not literally, yet... please someone help me, It's not as simple as changing careers, I've finally established myself here and I don't have a degree to just go somewhere else...

kelleyisfedup 5 pts

I work for a small family owned company doing order confirmation for their sales department. I receive a bonus based on piece work which means every order confirmed earns me money. The sales supervisor in a different department is supposed to bring the orders to to confirm. For they last month this woman has taken it upon herself to verify the orders thus taking away from my bonus. I have went ot my immediate supervisor several times following the company policy for complaints. However he brushes it off and says she is doing what she has to to meet her quota. Even though I have explained quite explicitly that it is cutting into my check and I even have evidence He refuses to see truth. However with a bonus program based on piece work it is crippling my abbility to earn money.That was the key selling point when hired was to be able to decide my own bonus but if I am being prevented from that by my own boss; as well as one  i dont have anything to do with directly. what am I supposed to do?; the supervisors are covering each others lying assthe woman really is a bad manager she has had hundreds of complaints over the years from employees, other supervisors,people that even just call for what ever reason. But because of some distorted sense of loyalty(even though she is a cancer who needs cut out)the owners wont do a damn thing.I just pray for this lady to disappear. I love my job and make decent money but for the stress its not worth it anymore!!!!

 

joyceg 5 pts

My boss fired me from my job of 13.5 years because I posted on my facebook wall that the movie Horrible Bosses was coming out on Friday and I was looking forward to seeing it, it looks like it's going to be funny!   He thought I was referring to him and fired me.

Just come home from seeing it. It's arguably 1 of the worst, unfunny, irritating so-called comedies I've ever observed. I wanted to leave right after 10 minutes but my wife insisted on seeing it by way of.And when I say 'irritating', you need to see it to appreciate just how irritating it truly is. How can skilled producers, directors, and so on., be capable of going ahead with such trash.

I was recently let go from my job due to my "standing posture," and on Monday I will be going up to my employer and tell him that I will be contacting EEOC and DOL for wrongful termination. He basically fired me because of sexual orientation but wanted to sugarcoat and blame on the way I stand, which is still discrimination. So I definitely Will be filing a discrimination suit on them, which would ultimately damage their establishment (it's fairly new, year franchise) and I'm sure it will not hold up well in court.

In the meantime any comments or output on my situation would help.
Please feel free to comment below. Assholes STAY away.

bnsajs 5 pts

EEOC is a worthless organization. What they usually do is listen to your side, then the bosse and present the boss' version almost verbatim for their decision. They do not request documents, make on-site inspections or speak to bosses or co-workers. They obtain the boss's version through HR. You are wasting your time with them.

Wow..a HUGE amount of awful, idiot bosses out there! Years ago my boss terminated me due to the fact I grew tired of his advances and went to HR and they sided with him! I tried to transfer and get away, cornered I did what I thought was right and it cost me my job. Oh well...I actually feel lucky, I am happier not being harassed and belittled daily. I hear he is still there and the same! But i really believe in karma and he will get his comeuppance one day.

Although I have had a long unemployment, I feel better off being out of that abusive environment. Really sad and bull crap that people have to deal with these kind of issues in the workforce nowadays!

I have been reading this for the last two hours, and I have had my share of bad bosses. I know how exhausting it can be trying to be heard. I would like to share a story that I heard about a few years ago, and I am stilling laughing.

I heard of a guy who was just a pathetic human being and not a very nice person to work for and harassed the the men and women sexually who worked for him. Well one day someone followed him to his favorite gym walked up behind him and hit him with a baseball bat then jumped on his pelvis which broke and left a note, we are tired of being bullied and you had better change your ways or the the next time it won't be the hospital.

He was in a body cast for a year, and when he came back to work he was the nicest guy you would ever want to work for.

I think that accidents happen all of the time. Oh, I think that they call this street justice.

I am not saying to do this but it sure worked for this one guy and his fellow employees.

We have a general manager that oversees fourteen managers. I have been in several meetings and listened in on conference calls and he has never said anything nice to anyone all he does is be little them. They have all sent letters to upper management and hr. Nothing is being done.

So american workforce, I think it is about time to be heard and not seen instead of being seen and not heard. WE have all put up with this for way to long.

My current boss is ridiculous - he's a fence rider. One day he agrees with us, the next we're doing it all wrong! He's also a type A and expects everyone else to be. He's scary smart too. He told me the other day "Why aren't you guys keeping up with my knowledge? How come no one knows what I know? It's easy!" He learns things almost by osmosis and the rest of us don't learn like that. We have one person in the office that's slower than the rest, and he's constantly be pestered by the boss, who criticizes and looks over his shoulder constantly. We feel bad for this employee, but at the same time, his slow learning is holding the rest of us back, so we sort of agree, but we think the boss is being harsh, especially in front of all of us.
We've all been working together for years (at least 10) and our boss (who wasn't always) has driven us crazy over the years with his fence riding-so we've all learned to ignore him and do it our way.

Bosses who are motivated by sales will do anything to sell!! I was a registerd licensed profrssional who was encouraged(told outright) to falsify records in order to increase sales. When I refused I was fired. I sued and settled out of court for a substantial amount. The worst part was he is still employed.

I used to have this boss that micro-managed everything. He was short tempered and explosive. His own boss was very aware of how his "boy" was and never bothered to correct him. In fact, they lived together for a bit.
Being in the corporate world like I was, I was constantly required to take ethics classes, which covered a broad array of everything from interpersonal behavior in the office to security at work, to creating a hositle work environment. These courses were designed to teach the employees in the company what was considered appopriate behavior while they were on the job, and none of it was actually practiced by the management in our own little corner of this big corporate entity. Well, after a few months of being harrassed by this guy, I figured that a call to HR was required. Fortuately those kinds of calls could be made anonymously and were taken seriously. Within two weeks there was an investigation and several impropriaties were brought to light. My manager exploded like I knew he would during his interview with the HR representative, and was subsequently terminated. His boss was demoted and eventually laid off because it was discovered that his unique management style didn't fit with the corporate indentity the company was tryingto project.

Ultimately I quit for greener pastures and took a job which nearly doubled my take home. Sometimes all it takes is a little observation to find the best way for revenge.

After having been trained for nine years to run an Accounting Dept. for a large multi-national firm we got a Director who thought he was above it all and a real pain.
Myself and my Mentor were the only two who knew the financials of the Dept.. I waited for him to retire and he then moved to the West Coast to retire where he was from origanally. After he got settled in out there I walked into the Directors Office and announced my resignation. This guy had no idea where the money was. And after doing it for years under my Mentor I did the paperwork my way and he was really no longer in the loop.
I was called by Administration and offered raises and perks but told them no I have already accepted another offer. The Director got kind of out-of-sorts with me realizing he had no idea what was going on and was just a signature on the paperwork and his Bosses would now find that out.
With this attitude in front of Administration I announced I would no longer be giving the Company two weeks notice and left.
I heard he was fired shortly afterwards.

vlad,

Please allow me to chime in here as a person who has "run something" If these people were stupid little high school kids submitting their stories of horrible bosses, then I might agree that they could be "crappy employees".

However, you're talking to people who have been in the same line of work for years, and/or have college degrees. They deserve to be listened to and more importantly, respected for what they've put up with.

Having said that, yes, there are always 2 sides to every story, but when a majority of these bosses are getting fired, there has to be quite a bit of truth to what these people are saying.

So, why don't you leave them alone, get a life and stop trying to pretend like you know what you're talking about. It's obvious you don't have a clue.

My boss was also underhanded and manipulative and enjoyed firing people.

She's stilll there! My best friend was fired over10 years ago; she went back to school and received a master's degree. This boss demanded perfection, and when she didn't receive it, would either lie or lie in wait to "catch" people doing something wrong. My friend was actually fired for lying on her timecard - she had stayed over about 15 minutes everyday and didn't claim it on her hours.She went above and beyond what was expected of her. She was punished for being a good guy.

This boss would love to use intimidation tactics. She could humiliate anyone at the drop of a hat. Once my cell phone went off during a meeting (the one time I forgot to turn it off) and she made sure everyone there knew who screwed up. I should have just let it ring and look around the room!

I got fed up with always being treated badly and quit. The turnabout at this public library should alert her supervisor to a problem, but alas, she is still at the reins hacking up people and tossing the remains. I believe she is an alcoholic.

I too have had a terrible boss, I was a cashier in a local (now a chain) farm, home and auto store. One day he yells in front of all the customers " Hey ----! I think you need a dye job, your roots are showing" That man is still with the company! I left after a nervous breakdown. I think they should have canned him after I reported him, there were other things. He could have been the president of the "He men woman haters club"!!! I saw him not to long ago, he has no hair on his head, and it all fell down to his face. I could not see HIS roots!!!!!

I HAVE a boss who clearly was very gilb and was able to pitch her private sector ideas to a City government Assistant Commissioner. The Assisant Commissioner who is fair and quite work oriented, believed my boss would be ideal, with HER intense knowlege of Excel and little novel ideas which really have no place in a unionized field such as City government (such as making you do a josb not remotely related to what you were hied to do, etc...).

In a years time this boss has actually learned very litlle and instead relys on her experienced staff, most of which have been there twenty years or more. She requires that all information, in one area or another, be placed in lengthly and complicated Excel speadsheets most peope can't understand. In this fashion, the information we put into these charts can be easily looked at and responded to without actually knowing it. Our ideas are and assigments are taken away close to completion and given to more favored people who don't question this boss where they then get the credit for the entire project. They are allowed various trangresssions while the rest of the staff is targeted on vaious levels for simply questioning an agenda.

The Assistant Commisioner, not wanting to get invloved in what he may see as petty office politics does not realize the damage this boss has already inflicted o the staff as a whole by dividing us. The productivity levels have fallen since this boss started and not just because we spend most of our time entering information on endless speadsheets.

Now the entire staff is disgrunted, there are a grievances with various unions on behalf of staff that have been unfairly targeted, one employee retired over five years early because she couln't take the changes made by this unexperianced boss and another two will shortly, one employee has started his own business and will be resigning soon, and those of us with many more years needed to retire and no viable options, distance ourselves from this boss regarding anything not work related and keep a paper trail for everything.

This "boss", is underhanded, manipulative, cunning with a nasty vicious streak but she suceeds because she pretends to befriend people and then feeds into their insecurities. When people are favored, many will do anything to retain this status and go along with things they know are wrong and others are too afraid of loosing their jobs.

We have a bet going though, that we may not have to put up with it too much longer. SOME CHANGE is GOOD! :)

Having worked for more than one horrible boss, I can tell you that the most important thing to do is -- move on. You deserve better! And I know it's not the popular opinion here -- but William made me laugh until I cried.

All,

I have been in similar situations as well being the employee with a bad, abusive and unethical boss. My story however is now from the other side, I have been the boss. I have worked for the same company for almost 2 decades, and I have had nothing but promotions and pay raises. But a while back my team of managers working for me did not like a person I hired or a person I promoted. Even though there was plenty of documentation to provide the reasoning for both, so they started talking and passing negative comments around to the rest of the team. It spread like a cancer, and some went to HR (which by the way, our HR people turnover about every 1 1/2 years). The new HR team ended up firing one of my managers, and this has been the hardest thing both professionally and personally for me to live through. I feel like a failure, and I feel like I let my team down. I have learned a lot from the experience, but this has been rough. I still work here, and with the same team but everyday it gets harder and harder because some of the people act like pre- schooler's and can't let it go. The Manager that ended up getting fired was the best Manager we had on the team by the way. The other managers had made statements such as "We want ______ gone." And in the end they got what they wanted. I am now looking for another job, and I feel as though the company I work for is not the company I want to continue to work for any longer. The company I work for is a fortune 100 company and I still can't believe they let this happen. The HR Person in charge of this issue is no longer with the company if that tells you anything. Just thought I would share insight from the other side........sometimes it can be bad employees as well as bad bosses. Just a Director for a fortune 100 company’s 2 cents.

"dan", your story is long, boring and fake. why bother? I can't imagine the painfully dull life you lead, where making up stupid junk about others makes you feel "manly". No matter how many of these stories you make up, your hair will not grow back. Losing weight is easy: stop hating yourself and eat less. That's all.

"Denise hires a new temp worker, who quits after 3 days…her replacement ALSO quits after 3 days…and HER replacement ALSO quits after 3 days…and so on, and so on…for SIX FREAKING MONTHS!"

Virgin Lad - Go back under your rock and imagine a life wherein you respect yourself, then MAYBE you can comment in a helpful way.

Little boy: his story is just that....a fictional story. You, being a stupid dupe, wouldn't know the difference, and so it must be explained to you. Now david, you silly fruit, you may sit quietly in your mothers' basement and wonder why you lead such a sad, lonely life. I know. It's time you figured it out.

I come to speak not of my own bad bosses, but my wife's...for had it not been for "Denise" and her twisted sense of humor, "Margo" and I would never have met; names were changed here, but those who know Margo and I will know the true names/places named herein.

Denise, her sister "Josephine" and her niece "Rochelle" all worked for the same auto dealership, as did Margo (the only member of the office staff who wasn't family)...one bright, shiny day, Denise, Josephine, and Rochelle are discussing what constitutes The World's Worst Date and come to the consensus that the WWD is (*cue dramatically-scary organ chord*)...a Short, Bald Man! Well, Denise derives great entertainment from the humiliation of others, but would NEVER humiliate Family...so they elected to humiliate Margo; that's where I enter the picture.

They give me Margo's phone number (conveniently forgetting to either A, mention to Margo that they wanted to do this or B, get Margo's PERMISSION to do this), laying down a Fantastic Line Of Bovine Stuff [F.L.O.B.S.] about how we have so much in common, Margo & I. Well, one VERY odd phone call later, we find that we DO have common interests and we set up a date; much to the irritation of Denise & Co., Margo & I fall in love. Denise grows more incensed by the day, having been cheated of her entertainment (which we find out about 6 months into the relatiomnship), and goes all Godzilla-on-PMS and FIRES Margo after 5 years with the company ("I'm sorry, but you're just not working out as well as we'd hoped.").

Denise hires a new temp worker, who quits after 3 days...her replacement ALSO quits after 3 days...and HER replacement ALSO quits after 3 days...and so on, and so on...for SIX FREAKING MONTHS!

Denise calls our home, profanely/brusquely commands me to have Margo call IMMEDIATELY; Margo, however, has by this time found other employment...5 minutes later, Denise calls again, outraged that Margo hasn't called her yet. Well, it turns out that Denise's continued employment was contingent upon whether Margo returned to the job she was fired from 6 months prior; Margo said no, and Denise had to go.

Karma can be really NAAAAAAAASTY, huh?

Articles like this, and you scumbags who come online to whine, are pathetic. How many of you have ever been entrusted to run.....anything? (close slack jaw, mumble "not me").

Instead of whining about a vaguely defined "bad boss", let's talk about the far more common, crappy employee, which is likely you. The crappy employee shows up for an interview as a job beggar: "I'll do ANYTHING you ask. I don't mind working overtime! I'm a FAST LEARNER! I'm a self starter!. I'm a problem solver!". Once hired, it becomes obvious you never had actual parenting. "boss....know what fellow employee jimmy did? I caught him doing 'x'!". Did you ask jimmy why he was doing x? "pffft. that's not my job! I want a cookie for narc-ing on someone!". or: "I have to work ONE HOUR OVER????? Yes, you told me it happened a lot. Yes you told me it is not under your control. Yes I get paid for it. Yes I said it wouldn't be a problem. But I don't want to! It's not FAIR! YOU should work it FOR me!". or: calling boss at home: "I can't log into the server and I don't know what to do." Try remembering your password and typing it in correctly. Why are you calling your boss at home for every tiny thing you do incorrectly/can't be bothered to work through yourself?

I could go on and on. Most people who whine about "bad bosses" are actually wrong; they are simply crappy employees.

And you are the whining winner! You sound like a bad boss who is just pissed because employees are rightfully letting off steam about their nasty, abusive and yes, whining, bosses. Stop whining and go read something that doesn't bother you so much. What a humorless, pathetic existence you must have.

Careful Vlad...Read #91 / Rick's street justice below... I have been a manager for over 20 years and I have had my share of worthless employees, but they were DEFINITELY the minority...the real problem employees were very few compared to the problem bosses...My previous employees still stay in contact with me after many years, and I never had to be concerned over a bat wielding ex employee...(sounds like you just may have to).

Best revenge EVER. After 5 years w. psychotic, abusive, narcissistic boss, got a job paying more, one that is in public eye. But the best part ever is that I headhunted out a number of other key employees.

Sometimes you are just going to have a bad boss and revenge is not the answer. My advice: keep your cool, make a list of your accomplishments there, and leave with class when you find another job. If you have been a good employee, they will miss you more than they imagined. Some of the posts suggest sometimes it actually happens that way, but don't count on getting rehired. Remember, they're bad bosses to begin with and may never learn from their mistakes.

In my younger days, I worked part-time for a bar owner as a bartender and a bouncer. The owner had jolly old time sleeping around with the female help until he made one of them the 'manager'. Working in that atmosphere of ignorance, sexism, and ineptness was very difficult indeed. I can say with absolute conviction (no pun intended) that the best revenge is testifying at your bosses trial and looking him in the eye as you explain the reasons you came forward and are testifying as a disgruntled ex-employee. Luckily, the people he hired to come after me after the trial liked me much better than him.
F-U Doug!

I worked for a manufacturing company and was one of only three minorities in the entire plant. My supervisor hated me because of my ethnicity, and would often make me assist him and his cronies in finishing their tasks before allowing me to perform my own.
Obviously, this led to my tasks being completed on very tight deadlines and required me to work a large amount of overtime. When layoff time came, I was right at the top of the list. My supervisor had been documenting that I was a procrastinator and continuously failed to meet my deadlines. I went away quietly and thanked the owner of the company for the opportunity to learn so much about the trade.
Just one month later, the owner of the company contacted me directly and offered me the supervisor position and a sizeable raise. Apparently, after I left no one was able to meet their deadlines.
When the owner of the company investigated the dramatic drop in production the resounding answer was, Mr. Smith used to do, or help with that. My supervisor had been claiming my work as his own and couldn't perform after he got rid of me.
The silver lining to helping everyone out was that I was the only logical replacement for the supervisor because I already knew the tasks that everyone else was performing! The owners turned out to be wonderful people to work for after the real dead weight was cut from the payroll.
By the way, the 'minorities' in this plant are the caucasions... food for thought.

I worked for a design firm that was very high profile in our city. My Boss was very incompetent, and had no people skills whatsoever. He was also a tyrant as far as time off was concerned and would make his employees jump through crazy (and illegal) hoops just to get time off for vacation or family leave. My grandfather died suddenly and I had to take some time off to help my family deal with funeral preparations and estate issues. Funeral leave was part of my benefits package, and I could take up to 10 days paid leave. I was asked to speak at my grandfather's funeral, and my boss told me that I couldn't take the time off to attend the funeral because it was inconvenient-translation; "I might have to work an extra half hour to cover your shift." I reminded him that funeral leave was paid by the company, and that this situation was covered by our company policy. He pitched a fit and told me that if I went to my grandfather's funeral that I might be fired....I was distraught...until my grandfather's funeral announcement came out, and my evil boss found out that my grandpa was a very well known and respected leader in our state and community. Many high-profile people were sure to attend the funeral...the governor, senators, mayor etc. lots of wealthy people and kind of a who's who of our state. My boss called me into his office and told me that it would be okay if I attended the funeral, as long as I worked in our company name into the eulogy. I thought he was kidding. He wasn't. He actually wanted me to give a commercial during my speech in church at my grandpa's funeral, since there were so many wealthy people going to be in attendance, he thought I could get some rich clients for our firm. I played along with it and asked him to write down what he wanted me to say...then I gave it to the owner of the company along with my resignation letter explaining that I couldn't work for someone with such a lack of integrity. (I was their #1 salesperson and if I took clients away from them and went to a rival firm they'd lose a fortune). What a weasel....he got fired, I was invited to stay on, and two months later HIS grandfather died...karma is a biyatch!

I retired from the Federal government a couple of years ago, and I must say I had exceptional, fair and rotten supervisors. Since we are talking about the bad ones here are three that I had. The first one, "I'll give you so-so ratings to keep the competition down." This guy could never explain his reasons for his evaluations, my group of Agents led our division in all areas of rating and past with flying colors our inspection. I found out after I transfered to our HQ and spoke with our supervisors that he did the same thing with them. He apparently commented to two of them that he hated competition, shameful. Second one "Lunatic" the first day he took over the office he told everyone that he would "get" anyone who spoke behind his back, along with other bizarre statements, screaming and "drama queen." After learning that he had bad mouth me behind my back, I confronted him, to which, he claimed he never did. This fell apart down the road when he bad mouthed others in our group and we started doing the same back to him. Worst yet this clown would take international trips "fact finding" to shack-up his girlfriend, wasting thousands of U.S. government money. Several of warned him of this, he blew us off, we took it over his head, result nothing, he was transfered, the only justice in the end his wife found out and divorced him (his second marriage). The third one, "The Sneak thief" this one would piss everyone interjecting himself into other offices investigations, and with half a clue would partially derail the case, all this to show the bosses his was "working hard." Why you ask this guy is a sneak thief, quietly he would take trips, hook-up with local whores, but oops, giving an STD to your wife can lead to divorce, and it did, she complaint to management and voila he is transfered. You want to stop reckless spending start monitoring 4th quarter spending in the federal government.

I am an office adminstrator for a church and my harrasser is also my pastor. It really gets me when people come in and talk about how wonderful he is. They have no idea what a mean-spirited micromanager he is.... and that is not even touching on the inappropriate comments and lewd ogling I get. The worst part is knowing that if I complain, I will lose my job. He is great friends with the chairman of the staff committee and brown noses all of the important members of the congregation. They have no idea that he behaves like this, since he only does it when we are alone. It would be my word against his... and he is a "man of God". I try to pretend I don't see it or hear it, but when I ignore him, he gets aggressive and angry.

He tells me one thing and then expects another, micro-manages to the point of the ridiculous and sends emails that my mistakes have seriously eroded his confidence in my ability to do my job. If I make a mistake, and I do sometimes, he blows it way out of proportion and tells everyone. I have been on my knees praying that God will have mercy on me and get me out of this place before something worse happens. Times are tough, though, and jobs are few and far between.

I have been documenting everything, for whatever good it may do.

Get off your knees. Buy a recording device and get some evidence. You might be surprised by how few people are lining up to handle the carnival of religious business. Pastors are notoriously abusive and transparent since they make a living on the tissue of "faith" and seldom deal with facts, truth, or consequences.

OMG William, have you ever interacted with any humans? You like sheep don't you? You must!

William is a troll. Don't respond. In order to make him go away, you have to ignore him like he's invisible. don't respond to him.

What do you do when the Horrible Boss is the Bosses wife. No matter how many clients or employees we loose, it's never her fault....AND IT IS!!!! We try to talk to the Boss and let him know, but we can NEVER get him to see what she really is.....a Cancer that is destroying the morale of all his employees.

You need to get the customers to document why they are unimpressed with your 'Cancer' without acknowledging they know it is the bosses wife. Subordinates will never hold the upper hand when she has the man alone at home. The customers is where the bread and butter comes from... if that doesn't wake him up, you need to find a new job!

I worked with a boss's wife that was the same way. She befriended a mentally ill man who, in a fit of rage, ended up shoving his boss (who was the kind, smart and competent) and then lied about the incident. The boss's wife stood up for her male friend and karma did not prevail; not only was the mentally ill jerk never punished but they canned his competent boss!!! Most people that shove people at work not only get fired but they face criminal charges - but not this guy thanks to the bitchy boss's wife.

Wow.. These comments make me thankful I have a decent boss! I have had my share of them myself.. in the past...

Let's face it: The EEOC is about as ineffective a government agency as any of them! I haven't run the statistics, but I would bet that less than 1% of their cases are settled for the plaintiff -- assuming they actually decide to take it. No surprise here. These guys are politicians, whether elected or appointed. They know which side their bread is buttered on, and who butters it. They won't bite the hand that feeds them...

bnsajs 5 pts

EEOC is a joke. They accept your complaint, ask for the boss's version then present the latter almost verbatim as their reason for not finding cause. They rarely if ever request documents, make on-site inspections, or speak to co-workers or supervisors. They obtain the boss's version from HR. They then issue you a right to sue letter which is great if you have 50 grand for legal fees. Lawyers do not take these cases on a contingency basis

I worked for an OBGYN in Dallas along with a wonderful office manager (and person). The wonderful office manager was diagnosed with breast cancer and had to be out of the office some afternoons for chemo-therapy. The boss/doctor/owner slashed her pay to minimum wage while she was going through her illness. She went from over $60k a year to basically $6.00 an hour. He knew this would save him money and she would not leave as she could not lose her health benefits in the middle of battling cancer. I contacted the EEOC on her behalf and they would not touch the case as the office had less than 50 employees. This was a single lady with no other form of financial support. When she was done with chemo and he gave her the original salary back he wanted to fire her and have me replace her. I quit. My conscious would not let me work for someone who would treat a person so badly who was battling for her life.I would not allow him to fire her for me. I was healthy and able to find another job quickly. She needed to stay for the health benefits alone. I know that KARMA can be a bigger b#!@% than I ever thought about being...he will reap what he sows! EEOC---ha ha ha ha, what a joke!

bnsajs 5 pts

I complained to the national director of EEOC, my Congressman and both Senators about maintaing such an agency of pro-employer, lazy, cynical bureaucrats all to no avail. I even challenged the local office to give one example where they found cause. NO ANSWER

Once upon a time, I worked for Andersen Consulting as the IT Operations Supervisor for Cyprus AMAX Minerals. My manager (not my supervisor) took it upon herself to 'groom me for management' by setting up a (sometimes) weekly lunch, where she would proceed to tell me everything I was doing wrong, and how to do it as a good Andersen employee should. In the meantime, my supervisor, who I rarely saw, was more interested in advancing his own career than helping me do my job -- which he couldn't do on his best days!

My manager was suddenly up for Associate Partner, and most, if not all contact with her ceased. The only time we in Operations saw or heard from her was when someone complained about some real (or imagined) problem. At those times, she was NEVER on our side!

After 3 years of this, I decided that I did not enjoy management, and preferred to return to the technical track, as my skills were atrophying. (What did they expect with meetings all day long, almost every day?) I told my manager this, after talking to HR. She blew! She said she had been planning on moving up from her position, and moving me into it.

After I changed tracks despite her complaints, she had me assigned to a supervisor -- also a woman -- who hated me, and clearly had an agenda to see to it I failed. (I later heard that she had told a co-worker, in confidence, that she was suprised that I was able to handle the workload she had deliberately dumped on me, hoping I would fail.)

After one missed page, I was written up, then given the first and only bad review I have received in my entire 40+-year career, before or since.

Cyprus was bought by Phelps/Dodge, and didn't want any part of Andersen (can you blame them?). Andersen told us that everyone who had a good review in their last performance period would receive severance pay when the contract was ended.

Of course, that meant I wouldn't get it. My manager panicked, afraid that I would sue over that (I would have, too, and she didn't have a leg to stand on!), and arranged with HR and my supervisor to have me demoted back to the earlier pay grade I had held, which would make me eligible for the severance package. Of course, they set it up so that I would have to make the choice to accept the demotion, just to keep the lawyers happy...

Needless to say, I took the package and split! I had another job in a few months, which had much less responsibility, and a much lower stress level. I would never consider working for Accenture (nee Andersen Consulting) again on a bet. And it also cured me of wanting to be in management. I will never again, by choice, take a management position!

Someone earlier mentioned that they noticed most of the bad bosses are women. While I'm sure there are 'reasons' they are the way they are, I have had very good bosses who were women, and several bad bosses who were men. Perhaps it is because they are women, and not expected to behave so differently from male bosses, that people notice and complain about the aberrant management styles in women more often than the same in men.

Wow you have a lot on your mind.......what I mean is summarize!

I worked for this company based in Humble, TX for over 3 yrs. The regional VP is also the branch manager and my direct supervisor. He decides what should be done, then changes his mind in the next breath. He is gone a lot so I have to do most of his work as well as my own. He won't hire a manager because feels threatened by other people doing a better job than him. He makes the admin bill for unfinished work so he makes budget every month, which usually adds up to around 25% of our target number. Every time he hires someone new, he trains them to do a job he knows nothing about anymore. When they don't do their job right, I have to finish it since they have no clue when I ask them to do it the right way. I put up with being cussed and yelled at by the guys, but the manager won't repremand them. He tells me he will handle it, then laughs with them on the phone later joking about how females are too emotional. So many admin have come through this office and quit because of lack of organization and leadership. After many attempts to make things better, I left after sending a documented letter and emails I forwarded to my personal email to corroborate my experience to HR and a copy of The No Asshole Rule to distribute throughout the company. I really hated that it ended that way but I would rather be unemployed than be treated like a second class citizen. Still unemployed.

I currently work for a numb nut boss. Spends more time dicking around on the golf course than actually making his business run. I am way underpaid for all that I have to oversee on a daily basis, including his screw ups. So I have adopted a policy of letting the mistakes happen, and letting the customers get pissed off, and letting him pay for his laziness and stupidity. Beyond that, I know that he is a HUGE tax cheat, and can prove it. I will prevail. Job security is knowing where your boss hides the receipts for all the stuff he writes off as business expense that really is not. The IRS would LOVE to catch this asshole. And I may just be pissed off enough to tip them off.

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