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My husband works at Walmart and they get on to people for saying hell,yes hell. If its a place in the bible and some parts of the U.S. how is it a cuss word. Also a friend of mine went to school with a girl whose name was the f word they pronounced it Fuchs but spelled with the k.Theres a time and a place to use said words for their effect and sometimes it is work.

If you use your conscience correctly - you know the one God gave you, then you should know the right way and the wrong of any situation. Swearing anywhere especially work is not warrented and does not establish any worthy purpose. See what happens in an environment where it is prevalent and then is stopped suddenly. What a positive move it makes!

This is a fine example of moral dilemma: one should be allowed to curse, due to Freedom of Speech, but one should not exercise this right, due to Manners; don't forget- good etiquette is an essential component of Consideration For Others and Self-respect as well.

I honestly think cussing should be banned at the workplace. No one is being restricted from their freedom of speech. Why is cussing a big deal? They're just words.

We're talking about 2 things here:
1) Is it OK to swear at work
2) Is it OK for an employer to decide #1

My questions/comments are:
1) If #2 is true, than it should epply to EVERYTHING, right? My employer can say "I'm going to pay you for 1 hour when you work for 2 and I can do that because you work for me." My employer can tell me I have to be Christian to work there beacuse he is Christian. My employer can tell me to wear dresses because she thinks women shouldn't wear pants. Etc, etc, etc, right? What's the distinction here?

2) Why are swear words swear words? What if I started calling everyone an apple? As in, "You are SUCH an APPLE, I can't appling believe how much I hate apples, you APPLE!" Will this eventually becomes a swear word because I am obviously insulting them? Or is this an example of what another poster intelligently pointed out is the difference between cuss and curse?

3) Did God make a list of which words were bad? How do we know what they are? Who made these up or who decided what is or isn't offensive? Does the Bible say, "F*** is a really bad one, people, the Devil will burn you for eternity if you say s***?"

4) Almost everyone is dumber than me - it is a proven fact, not a bragging right (honestly, I would much rather be dumber than I am so I didn't have to understand how dumb others are). So here is an above average intelligence female who swears. Not because I am dumb. Not because I have no class. Not because I have no imagination. Not because I don't have an extensive vocabulary, but because IT FEELS GREAT.

5) I am offended by people who wear mullets in the workplace. I think I should be entitled to force my employer to force my coworkers to cut the rat tail.

Just a thought...

And to those of you who insist that cussing is for the feeble minded and less intelligent, find it offensive, or are otherwise uncomfortable... well...

Get off your high horse.

That is all.

I agree with one commenter who said that for those working in really crappy minimum wage jobs (retail, fast food, mall, what else have you), swearing is just SUCH a relief.

I really couldn't imagine working my dead end job without being able to curse, regardless if it's in abbreviations (MF, DB, DA, SOB, etc.) or a mutterance to a coworker (who, by the way, probably curses themselves, since, hey, they work at the same minimum wage job as you). I'd probably not have stayed at my current job for as long as I have (going on 3 yrs) if I hadn't had swearing as a vent.

Now, for more "career" jobs, I'd say swearing shouldn't be allowed.. however, I do think there are exceptions. For instance, doctors, nurses. These people work the LONGEST shifts and have to make TOUGH decisions concerning other people's health, and oftentimes, lives. I'd forgive these people for any swearing.

I WOULD LUV TO WORK FOR GOLDMAN SACHS.......AND.......WHATEVER.......GOLDMAN SACHS REQUIRED.......IS.......KOSHER.......WITH.......ME.......

It's not a lot to ask that inappropriate wording be kept out of written communications.
While I can more than understand expletives being used when something falls on your foot, using them in a written business communication is inexcusable.

I agree with the first commenter...

This is just sad.

REAL question...

Exactly how scary, small-minded, and pathetic is it that people feel a need to handle nearly everything - most inappropriately those things which can, should, and are handled by being a human - with a ban? Answer...

Far worse, more juvenile, and FAR more dangerous than a need to cuss.

~"Swearing is the effort of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcefully." Spencer W. Kimball

I am retired now but since I gave my life to Christ over 30 years ago I have hated to hear people swearing on the job. One time I decided not to make my purchase when I heard some employees tell an obscene joke about my Lord. I wonder how many employers realize how much business they lose when customers hear the employees cussing. There are better ways to vent in the job place.

hey bone head "write from wrong"?

I recenting read an article that stated - if you use a cuss word after you get hurt (for ex, stub your toe) the pain subsides significately faster. Wouldn't the same be true for stubbed feelings, egoes and good ideas that the boss shot down. I mean WTF, there are hardly any virgins in the US over the age of 18 and by the time most people have graduated college thaty have done just about every "dirty" thing there is a name for. So again I say WHAT THE FUCK? For some people, I think most, cuss words are used like any other adjective. Forget about, find a better crusade and move the fuck on.

All profanity is, is a ignorant brain trying to express itself forcefully. Kudos to GS

Write from wrong?

Oh boy. You are definitely someone who should be telling managers how to manage.

They want you to feel powerless. That is the whole point.

If you swear all the time, it proves you are stupid. If you were smart, you would use words that make sense given certain situations. Like people who drop the J-bomb...cheese and rice...What does He have to do with it? Grow up and quit acting juvenile and weak. Grow up and deal with life like a grown up. And you who don't like those imature potty-mouths, stand up to them. They are truly the weak ones, they will hear it more clearly than ANY swear word.

Cussing is unproffesional, unethical, low class, shows ignorance and no self-control. Who would want their son or daughter to marry or work with a person who cusses. It is not judgemental but very sensible. People who cuss are weak.

Mike,

That was great! Thank you!

Well stated Thank you! @(&#&@(*#$ ...

This is the most progressive and moderate person in this blog. I whole-heartedly agree with you.

Cursing is immature and unprofessional and accomplishes nothing but create resentment and hard feelings among employees. Personally, I wouldn't buy a lawnmower from a man or woman who curses.

Man that freaking sucks. I hope this doesn't catch on to other companies, I want the freedom to cuss if I'm stressed at work I mean $@#%! =)

If someone can explain the purpose of "cussing" or cursing or using foul language at work or in public, perhaps I can understand why it is or should be permitted. I find it offensive and think it shows that the person using it has a poor command of the English (or any other) language. Teenagers use it to show they're "grown up" or tough. When a 30 year old man or woman uses it, it's basically "po' white/black/red/yellow trash" talk.

My initial comment was in response to "Deborah Wright" at the top of the page. Eleventeen commas and one period does not make your point more convincing - it only puts you on the same level of "undereducation and lack of sophistication" as the very profane people you condemn.

I personally cuss about 50 times a day - mostly in my car on back roads far, far away from the freeway with no other living soul within miles of me. It's a victimless crime. I can say that because, as you can infer from this post, I do possess a reasonable degree of education and linguistic command of English (which, by the way, is only one of four languages that I know how to speak - and swear in).

There's usually one other person in the office with me, who really doesn't mind the occasional swear. When someone calls in to the office to place their order, though, I'm on my very best behavior. I use nothing but the cleanest language to even the most surly client.

To summarize: YOUR RIGHT TO "FREE SPEECH" IS COUNTERBALANCED BY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO USE YOUR PROFANITIES SENSIBLY. If you are in a position in which profanity may compromise your efforts, directives, or responsibilities, it is your personal obligation to refrain from cussing. If, on the other hand, circumstances permit swearing, then you have the freedom to say whatever the **** you want to.

Use your brains.

That has to be the gnarliest effing run-on sentence that I have ever seen.

I was speaking with someone who used the "F" word 36 times in one minute,as verbs and adjectives, trying to describe a situation. This guy thought he was having an intellectual conversation. I thought he was a joke, but stayed until he was finished.

The other""" GOLDEN RULE"" is that if you have to repremand and employee YOU NEVER DO SO IN FRONT OF FELLOW WORKERS OR THE PUBLIC, that is a PRIVATE MATTER NOT TO BE """BROADCAST TO EVERYONE""", I have NEVER BEEN A MANAGER AND I AM AWARE OF IT.

To whom it my concern: Profanity of ANY KIND does not have a place in the work place. If you are tought write from wrong at home you will have been RAISED PROPERLY by your parents. Anyone that uses PROFANITY has not GROWN UP IN THE BRAIN, to not use PROFANITY shows evryone that your BODY & BRAIN have MATURED AT THE SAME PACE. It's called being """ RESPECTFUL OF YOUR FELLOW WORKER""". It is ONE OF THE GOLDEN RULES OF BEING A MANAGER, and if you cannot show """RESPECT""" you have NO BISINESS BEING IN CHARGE OF OTHER EMPLOYEES BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT """GROWN UP"{"" YET.

To be sure. 'Cursing' does not make the color of flowers in the meadow glow any more brightly ... then again, I don't recall that it was ever intended to!

Temper+(plus) making a strong point most often = curse words. On the other hand, when cursing becomes an unconscious, unintended part of (otherwise) normal conversation it can be offensively distracting - particularly, when the language used turns from 'lite-weight' foul words, to the heavy-weight 'dirty' language.

The problem with the 'speech police' trying to patrol the unflattering habits of rabid nasty mouths - is that they are going to run afoul of the NAACP real quick... And that is *not* intended as some foul wise crack.

Street blacks consider M***** F*** a 1st amendment right of birth. It would be seen as unholy as forbidding them to say 'Mama'.

Whomever a cursing ban curse would be imposed on you can bet it "would not" include the politically connected and $$$$ 'elites'.

After 30 plus years of network TV jabbing at and making fun of (mostly) white teenagers for words like 'darn' and 'heck' - teens have nowadays embraced "M-F" into they're vocabularies more prolifically than back street gangs. Imagine that!

Last point. This article sounds to me more like some thinly veiled; "Muslim or shariah law pandering".

Public use of really nasty language is BAD. Our culture should regulate that.

Cursing in a professional environment is equivalent to noise pollution!

See -> http://www.answers.com/topic/noise-pollution “Noise Pollution generally refers to unwanted sound produced by human activities—unwanted in that it interferes with communication, work, rest, recreation, or sleep.”

As distracting as bringing a “boom box” into an office area, speaking profanities does exactly that.
It is uncommon and vulgar language that often produces an atmosphere of tension and perpetuates verbal and intellectual ignorance.
Our freedoms allow for controlled speech. And just as those freedoms don’t allow you to yell fire in a theater, cursing in a public/professional environment should not be allowed because of what it can produce.

But ultimately it should be up to the Private Employer to make that decision.

Just a thought.

Rob

I read so many comments, and I see they run the gamut from pure support to pure anger.

My two cents:

1.) I don't believe you should put anything in writing that you don't intend to have live on in infamy... whether good or bad, it is irrelevant because it is like un-ringing a bell, and cannot be done. Imagine your children or preacher reading what you write, and how you might feel if they did?

2.) I won't argue that verbally cursing isn't as bad as writing it, but your "audience" can at least be controlled by who is within "ear-shot" of your voice. If it is repeated or passed on, it at least won't have been you that is directly responsible, unless of course you were unfortunate enough to have been recorded... like Mel Gibson's recent tirade. Now, his intended "audience" was most certainly NOT the World, but that is the unfortunate nature of the Web when there is a written or auditory record.

Summary:

Everyone would do well to self-sensor themselves, at least to the point of knowing what they can live with if the whole world were to be made aware of what they said.

Bonus "Cent": I do believe companies have the right to mandate workplace behavior, appearance, language, etc... if you don't like the mandates where you work, you can always go find a place more suitable to your tastes... like a Strip Club or Construction Site. :-)

Thanks.
Lynn M.

I think cussing is unintelligent anyway. I've heard it said before that cussing is said when you don't have anything smarter to say.

Is it really necessary to curse in public? No. It's just a habit for you now.

Simple, our society is crass and uncouth and it spills over into the workplace, and is highly unacceptable to any professional environment. Trouble is most don't know any other means of communicating, unfortunate but reality. I was raised differently, in a religious environment, you didn't think to speak like that, and now in churches potty mouths are the norm there as well, sign of our liberal "express yourself" times. No manners, no respect, absolutely no dignity anywhere. I think it is offensive and disgusting but hey that is filth status we have evolved to. And it is all politically correct for idiots and morons to be exalted and bring us even lower!

The Supreme Court has ruled that profanity is protected free speech as a form of expression. So, any attempt at restricting it is going to probably be met with legal action. At least that's the way I see it.

Someone posted, there are worst things to concern ourselves with. I work at a church and I cuss when I need to. Curse words DO NOT lower one's intelligence, character or morality. It's just another form of expression. It can be rude and degrading if that's how it's meant to be, otherwise it's just words to be use.

Profanity is just nasty especially at the workplace...there is just no excuse for it.

Well, cursing is simply an unintelligent person attempting to sound intelligent. I personally dislike working while someone in the back qround is slinging curse words at his fellow employees or at his children and or significant other. What has happened to this world when we are unable to properly communicate and express ourselves adequately? We are so doomed. I guess this is another way of thanking the government for removing a higher power from our schools, government and anything that has any significance to us. Making any religion illegal is offensive and has ben shown to demoralize the general population. We are degrading to our reaL SELVES. ANIMALS

I wish people would just grow up and learn some restraint and realize that they can't do whatever they want to. Keep your mouth clean and don't make others have to listen to it. Yes, clean up your mouths!!!

Better that than someone going "postal".
The workplace is continually getting more and more stressful. There needs to be a release valve.

something else....

when at work, you are AT WORK, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE ON THE INTERNET PLAYING GAMES AND SENDING E-MAIL,

and if that is part of the job, then it needs to be clean and professional.... in other words...
NO CUSSIN'

you know?
this might just be what is needed in every company.....

might open the doors for those that are in need of a job....

you start cursing, you start walking....
there are others that need a job and that can work with out cussin

I think it is great.
Most people do not want to hear me talking about the Bible during breaks, or about how wonderful Jesus is and God is.... they do not want me to share my religion with them or push it towards them....

so

DO NOT PUSH YOUR RELIGION OF FILTH TOWARDS ME!!!!

when a person starts using swear words every other word, then that opens the door for me to start preachin'..... you don't like my preachin? then stop the preachin of your master, the devil...

Salam had one thing right: profanity is juvenile behavior that has no place in adult conversation. It is not permitted in my office and never has been. My associates are thinking adults who are capable of expressing themselves appropriately.

I hope the managers who created this policy don't swear at those working under them. This would be hypocrisy. That having been said, I personally think that if you are going to use foul language, you need to consider your audience. If you are in front of children, women, customers, clients, your boss, or anyone in management, don't swear. Somebody will be offended. At best it's a bad career risk. If you are among your co-workers, and no management is going to hear you, and you know nobody will mind, then that would be the time and place to use swears if you must do so to vent.

I have had bosses in the past who would swear at people if they screwed up, and frankly it made me not want to work for them anymore. It's a matter of respect which I think is a two-way street.

I don't claim to have the cleanest mouth, but I try to limit my cursing, especially at home and at work. I have never used bad words in an email, either. Using a little time to think of the right words while composing an email makes it unnecessary for me to cuss in that situation.

THANK YOU CHIRSTOPHER. ps, thank you for your service, come back safe.

Wow. Powerful post. Beautiful, even....