Between May and June, on college campuses throughout the country, you can sense a level of excitement that is usually reserved for $1 beer night or when parents finally drive away after a weekend visit.
That excitement comes from graduation and the fact that students (at least for a few months) are done with exams, papers, lectures and studying. Perhaps forever or at least until grad school, these students are rid of the pesky academic portion of college and can now embrace the freedom of adulthood, also referred to as the “Real World.”
Because life is cruel, reality sometimes smacks students across the face with the reality that freedom, glorious freedom is filled with annoyances. Namely, the competition to land a job after graduation. Some students have jobs lined up during their senior year so graduation is one last stop before getting bigger, better paychecks. However, many students are faced with a competitive job market. They’ve spent years learning their crafts and now they have a diploma — they just need the paycheck. Who’s going to hire them?
According to a recent CareerBuilder survey, 44 percent of employers intend to hire recent college graduates. Last year 43 percent of employers said the same thing, so at least the number didn’t decrease. However, just a few years ago in 2007, a record high of 79 percent of employers said so.
That said, of the employers who will be hiring new graduates, 21 percent intend to hire more students than they did last year. Plus, 16 percent will offer higher starting salaries than they did in 2009. This year’s grads will definitely compete for jobs in a way that previous classes didn’t, but employers are at least approaching the hiring season with more attractive intentions than they did last year.
Speaking of salary, money matters. Doesn’t it always? Here’s what employers have said about salaries:
If you’re a recent graduate, you’re probably wondering what will help you land the job. Luckily, the survey asked such questions. According to employers, these items count as relevant work experience you should list on your résumé, ranked by popularity:
As you’ll discover through most of your career, employers consider experience one of the leading qualifications for a job, but they also look at a variety of factors. Employers cited the following qualities as important factors in hiring an employee:
And according to NACE, the National Associate of Colleges and Employers, for the first time in this academic year, college hiring is up. The bottom line? Celebrate, graduates! You’ve worked hard AND your chances of landing a job are better than they’ve been for years.
To read the full results of the CareerBuilder survey, click here.
I usta coudn't spell salzmun --- now I r one. Yuk--Yuk.
Try realizing what it is you want to do for a career and align yourself for that.
When you get there, you can expand from there.
McDonalds has a burger college.
Don't restrict yourself to one area of the country.
I had a technal degree --- $49,000.
Thomas Calandra:
"Three-time college graduate?" WTF is that? You can't even spell. That's your problem.
I have a degree from a public school in electrical engineering 5 years
decided to go to med school 4 years
did Family Practice 3 years
when I finished, I had my pick of jobs in any town in the nation. Interviewed for three in my hometown 20 minutes from the beach. All payed signing bonus, moving bonus, school loan repayment. guarantee salary, 4 weeks vacation. 4 1/2 day work week. call every 8 days, free health insurance, free disability insurance, etc. Just finished getting board certified in sleep medicine. this should eventually increase salary by 25% or more. Yes this is a lot of education but worth it. If you can't do this. Go to PA school. 4 years of college and 2 yrs of school. can make 100,000 a year, easy to get a job, we just hired one and had a posting out for 6 months looking for one.
my wife is a nurse and also has her pick of jobs
Why do people go to these expensive schools and get these mickey mouse degrees? I know a guy who graduated from Harvard with a degree in POLY SCI and is now a substitute teacher and has been for 5 years
I don't feel sorry for any college graduate with a 'soft' degree who can't find work. I have degrees in chemistry and physics and the work load I had to endure was incredible. I would hire anyone with a science, math or engineering degree with a 2.00 GPA over someone with a useless marketing, history or communications degree with a 4.00 GPA.
I went to a Engineering, Math and Science college and graduated in '08. I checked my school's website and in '09 (on the date of graduation) 83% of grads had either a job offer or had committed to graduate school or the military. Then within 3 months of graduation 90% of our class of '09 had an offer or had committed to grad school or the military. Prior to the recession these numbers were historically ~95-99%. The average job offer at my school for '09 grads was $59,464 (and the majority of these job offers are for the midwest where the cost of living is significaly lower than either of the coasts). Our career services dept posted an article last year talking about how Engineering, Math and Science students were being effected by the recession.... their conclusion was that our students were getting 1-3 job offers per person instead of 3-6 that students were seeing in previous years. It's good to be an Engineer!
It's all about WHO you know, not WHAT you know. Education is used as a backup. And in the entertainment/arts industry, looks and personality come first and foremost >(
I recently graduated as Registered Nurse in Miami, FL and cant find a job and am stuck making $24,000 as a receptionist in some law firm; so much for a recession proof career!
My advice is for her to move to an area where she can get a job. Right now they are needing teachers in west Texas and in the metroplex. Sometimes you have to go where there is work not where you want to work.
Seeing article after article on the classes of 2009 and 2010 makes me cringe.
I graduated in December of 2008 with a BS in Geography and a minor in Web Design. Sorta a unique major, but I was hoping to find a career in GIS, or Geographic Information Systems. Basically making maps and managing geographic data. I absolutely love it. I made a few mistakes in college, such as drinking a bit and studying enough to get by (aka not retaining the information). I had to pay my way through college since my parents wouldn't, not like they could anyway. I worked my butt off during the summers and still got into about $40k in student loan debt. Granted I spent some of the loan money like crazy on useless things, like drinking money and a new computer.
Point is, the 4 year experience in college taught me some valuable lessons, unfortunately the hard way. Now, here I am, working shit-level minimum wage jobs, no job in my field, and as each month passes by I'm losing time I could be using to work in my field. Fortunately, I managed to take on two paid internships, and I do not regret taking them at all. I have great contacts for networking now, and know they would send job opportunities my way should one come up.
I'm going back to school, for an IT Programming degree. More education? You're damn right. I feel the jobs I want are turning more to the IT side of things for GIS, such as application development. Another $8-10k of debt, but a small price to pay to make up for the mistakes I made. I'm ready to work my ass off, in both semesters and during summers working at a manufacturing plant I recently started at. I also want to obtain and/or tune up valuable work skills such as being a team player, adaptability and having much higher motivation skills. I fucked up - I admit it. But now I am owning up to that, and proving to myself that I can work hard.
...and the individual has more to do w/ their success that what field they majored in. I personally wanted an adaptable degree, so I majored in liberal arts and supplemented it w/ economics and business. I loved it, and wouldn't change a thing. Worked out pretty well. And really, my major is one of the lesser causes of why I'm doing well.
One needs to be flexible in the 21st century economy. For as many unemployed arts majors there are, there are just as many unemployed engineers and architects.
Well, various analysts and government agencies are reporting that the job market is improving. The economy is improving. Everyone's sex lives are improving. Whatever.
All kidding aside, the economy may be improving as a whole. This will mean nothing to many people, if it isn't improving where THEY live.
I am going to be graduating with a B.S. in Animal Science, and I am facing STIFF competion for entry-level jobs. This is primarily due to the fact that I am 39, with 3 children under the age of 10. My husband has worked his way up the ladder at his job, and cannot just walk away from that! A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, right?
I absolutely lack flexibilty in work locations. If I could pick up and move across the country for a job, I WOULD!!! I am at a disadvantage compared to a 20-something who has no 'encumbrances', in the same field.
In my favor, I am intelligent, hard-working, creative, and used to stress. I will need to draw upon all of these attributes when I am waiting tables, ha ha. At least it will pay the bills until I land something better!
I graduated in May of 2008 with a degree in Secondary Education. I have been employed since June of that year working in a high school in Rural South Carolina. It is my opinion that the people who are having trouble finding work are often being too picky with their criteria. Many of my classmates are still unemployed, working part time or working outside of education. In my experience, if you are willing to be flexible with your expectaitons, you can find work even in this modern economy.
I would agree with you, but I think you are forgetting that these kids still have to pay their student loans back. I think that is one of the main issues. Kids go to college to get a degree but they can't find a job that pays well enough now to pay off the loans. Schools keep raising tuition rates higher and higher each year. I just think that is one factor many people are not considering.
It's good to have a degree as a back-up but the job that I have right now, pays $58,000 a year (can make more if you work ot), full benefits and more. All you need to do is type 35 words a minute, data entry, customer service. No degree required. That's really nothing.
To Jon,
I have a BA in English, and I am working.
My friend got his BA in English, and he got a job making $45000 upon graduation.
Michael Eisner? BA in English.
James Cameron? English major.
Matt Damon? English major.
Stephen King? English major.
Sally Ride? English major.
Diane Sawyer? Stephen Spielberg? Barbara Walters? All English majors. A very long list of actors and actresses were all English majors.
The degree means nothing. It's your focus and goals that matter.
Dave,
Am currently an O-3 (6 yrs of active duty service) in the Navy. Have been thinking of getting out and your post caught my eye. Any way you would be willing to provide more info on how you assist Vets find employment? Am looking to go in to some type of law enforcement---be it at the federal or city/state level.
Thanks for your time.
Brooke
Wha-wha-what!?? That's a ridiculous statement. I had a near-perfect GPA, and I didn't always study (though rest-assured I DID study). I worked on the newspaper, was the college TV producer, and learned Chinese independently. I also held two jobs. I'm not really buying that you won't hire a grad that has a high GPA because that means they have no life. Also, I should add that I am currently a teacher overseas (no licensure), teaching English, and making close to $25 an hour.
In regards to this article, people need a skill--any skill--to succeed in the workplace. You also have to have very specific clear vision and goals. "Graduate and make $40,000 working at a company" is not a specific enough goal. Therefore, it matters not what degree you have, but what you intend to do with it.
Also, it does not help to have a negative view of anything. If you woke up every morning without a job but told yourself that you were happy and the world was fine, then voila!--you're happy and the world is fine. If you wake up every day and say the economy is awful, America is failing, and you'll never get a job, then no surprise--you'll be miserable and you'll never get a job and America will fail. Power of positive thinking and self-fullfilling prophecy summed up in one paragraph.
I got two words for everyone: health care... go back to school, now..dont waste your time with this mediocre crap..things are going in a direction (service/retail etc) and will not be turning back; that is until all the other countries that build things catch up and a better wage becomes an issue; Inside of 50 years, we went from the ideal that if, you werent the college type, you could go work at the "widget" plant, make a helluva wage, and retire from there. Now, everyone has 6 jobs before they retire. One thing that we can count on, is that health care will only get better, with more technology, meds, facilities, and specialties, the possibilities are abundant. My story in a nutshell is this: Graduated from a liberal arts school with a business degree, with spanish and marketing minors; had four bull-bleep jobs that stunk with little future (averaging about 32 K)..the last of which sent me over the edge; One day while driving around cold calling, I snapped, pulled into a TGI friday's, filled out an app (got hired a couple days later) then put in my 2 weeks, then went back to the same school i graduated from and got into a summer class: anatomy/phisiology I....It was hard for a single guy at age 27 when i was supposed to be moving up some perverbial 'ladder' that is obselete these days, so i could only imagine what is was like for parents, or single moms to do what i was doing; after i got over my inhibitions about bathing old people, and cleaning up poo and vomit, i found a new identitiy as a registered nurse... after 3 years, i have moved up 2 tax brackets, and could (technically) retire in my fifties, but i love my job too much to do that...the thing is, you dont have to be a nurse, and you certainly dont have to clean up bodily fluids; there are tons of people at my hospital that have RN tags that wear great business attire or suits to work too and sit at a desk...I happened to discover that I like the hands on stuff, something i never dreamed of doing. If something calls you to make a change, follow your gut, because even a better ecoonomy will only minimally change this new phenomenon of a bachelor's degree being a dime-a-dozen
I graduated in December 2009 from a state college. It is a good university, but not a great one. While I initially started out in the biology program, after 2 years I decided that medical school was not the right choice for me. So, judging by the standards of a lot of people on here, I took the "easy" way out and majored in Communication Studies. I wanted to do pharmaceutical or medical device sales. Those careers are very competitive, so a college degree is imperative, especially with the economy being in its' current state.
I ended up moving from the South, where I was raised and went to school, to New York City without a job; I signed a lease without having solid employment and didn't know if I'd be able to pay my second month of rent (my parents were co-signers). Everybody thought that I was crazy (I even questioned my sanity!) It was exactly 3 weeks when I was offered my position in sales. I have numerous opportunities to travel with my job, have an excellent compensation plan, which consists of a base salary of $50,000 + $25,000 guaranteed quarterly bonus, + commission.
There are times that I complain about my salary since living in the city is so expensive (especially in comparison to the area that I moved from). But, overall, I am blessed to have been given such a great opportunity as a new graduate. I work 9-6 everyday, weekends off unless I'm traveling, which is about once a month.
So, finding a job is VERY DIFFICULT AND DISCOURAGING, but can be done. Just keep knocking on doors; persistence pays off! And cold calling yourself pays off. Stand outside of the doors of companies you want to work for and pass out resumes and business cards ..... you never know who you'll encounter.
There's ZERO jobs out there, thanks to ODumba trying to Socialize our country..
Now you're going to REALLY going to need that HOPE & CHANGE garbage....
Apparently your education did nothing to improve your spelling, punctuation and grammar. Perhaps that is why you can't get a job.
Welder,
I like when idiots like you speak, but I don't blame you, you have the education level of a 17 yr. old. How can you tell people to shut up when most people work their ass off to put themselves through school and get a degree. If anything you gave up. I can't wait till someone with one of those degree's you wipe your ass with creates a machine to weld so we can lay off dumbass grease monkeys like yourself. I never got an allowance or financial aid. I worked and put myself through college to get a degree and a masters. "when you're under the welding hood you're your own boss, you control your own destiny" NO, it sounds like your doing something that someone with a degree told you to do. You know the owner of that company that signs your checks. And if they lay you off and you sit at home with your welder hood do you still control your destiny? Your a jackass. And to the people you say that a Psych degree is an easy way out. They have know Idea what they are talking about. I graduated with a degree in Psychology and a Masters in Applied Behavior Analysis to work with children with disabilities/Autism for excess and deficit behavior. Trust me it's far more complicated for you to wrap your little head around.
To IMC,
If he were to actually approach people with those degrees, and say that their degrees are not as valuable as a math/science degree, of course they are going to disagree! They do not want to admit the fact that they made a poor choice. They want to have some value for the hard work they did. Yes, every degree is hard work I do not doubt that, but is the information studied applicable to the job market? That is the question.
Just because you can write well, and have authority over the English language, basically means you can write well crafted emails and letters. Whoopdidoo. Besides teaching (which I will get back at later) one with an English degree lets say would probably have to go to Grad school in order to get a job. My brother found out many years ago that an English degree does not go far, and he had to go to Law School.
Teaching. Teachers are great, but if they are teaching a subject because it is the only job you can get with that degree, that degree/subject matter is pretty much worthless to our society. I also strongly agree with Philip. Who in their right mind would get a fabric designer degree? That is a complete waste of money and is going to piss your money away guaranteed.
Why don't people study something that can be applied to the job market in our current times? Is there a fear that if someone were to specialize in something, that they are going to make poor decisions in their life? Are we still clinging to the Renaissance Ideal that an educated man is educated in all fields? That kind of thinking is how old? Wasn't their society a little different than ours? Why do people think knowledge is compartmentalized?
Look around you and your standard of living. What manufactured that pencil or pen that you used to write? What manufactured the keyboard that you used to type that response? Your computer? A manufacturing plant, that used robotics and other computers. Did the people that implemented that have English, Philosophy, or History degrees?
Why are these institutions not changing? Why do they cling onto old ideals? Knowledge is a web. If someone were to start specializing in something early, there will be abstract questions that they will be bound to ask. This would incorporate other disciplines to understand.
Also, with the constraints that formal education imposes on students and their learning, there is no wonder to me as to why there is no desire to learn anymore.
I came to all these realizations, and asked these questions early. I would skip a pointless philosophy course to read Guns, Germs, and Steel in the school library. That is one book that changed my whole outlook at our world. What have I missed out, because I was forced to read The Odyssey and Shakespeare?
The best thing schools can do, is to feed our desire to learn, not inhibit it. They are inhibiting, forcing us to learn material that there really is no use to our current world, or in what we plan to do with our lives. We should be able to learn geared towards our interests.
Most of the jobs(85%)are in what's called the unadvertised market. There was an article that Newsweek ran that indicated... "You need to know how to penetrate both."
In my opinion, institutions of higher learning don't connect the theory they teach to the real time/real world needs of the economy and business. The people I talk to say they feel overly educated and under experienced and don't know how to properly sell their diploma to the employer.
I am tired of hearing how bad the newly graduated college student is suffering. Hey, I graduated from the school of 'hard knocks'! My ticket to the job market was a welding hood. When you are under the welding hood, you're the boss. When you are under the welding hood, you control your own destiny. When you expand your welding knowledge and capabilities you get more job offers and stay on jobs longer.
I have molded and adjusted my welding career along the way. I traded my welding hood for a welder supervisor position. I have traded the welding supervisor position for a construction supervisor position providing oversight of welding projects. No, I don't put a tie on everyday. I had to get dirty to get where I am at today.
The company I work for hires 'cub' engineers with little or no real world experience. Who do you think teaches those poor mistreated college graduates? This lowly high school graduate. Trust me when I say this, some of you need to grow up more before you enter the job market. And for some of you, your parents needed to cut off your allowance years ago because you have no concept of managing you life.
My last bit of advice to you new college graduates is "SHUT UP and LISTEN", get your hands dirty, do what your told and don't try to over analyze everything, and above all do not, under any circumstances, wave that degree in front of a true craftsmen's face because they will use it to wipe their butts with it.
The first journeyman I worked for had a saying that still motivates me and holds true today, "Light Up or Light Out!, that is welder speak for all of you overly eduated. He also had some other motivating sayings that can't be repeated in this type of forum.........
Good luck to you, your going to need it!
Also, how do you get experience if no one is willing to hire you? And you cant get an internship either..I know its important to stay positive, but its hard right now
HAHA the general consensus from reading most the comments is that this article was a complete WASTE OF TIME.... They say theyre hiring more, but the majority of us know that they are not hiring. I hate reading this article how things are picking up when im not seeing it yet.
I grew up with the mentality that if you study hard and work hard and hustle, you can make it. In HS, i was accepted to top colleges but couldnt afford them, so i went to a local state school, got my BS in FINANCE AND ACCOUNTING, in 2008, same month i graduated i was laid off from my cashier job at Mervyns. Took me 7 months to find a job and it was as a FURNITURE MOVER. Did that while also answered ads on craigslist for labor jobs that came up, like painting, moving etc. Im currently working as a teller part time. And it sucks, the job requires sales and its hard to sell when the bank you work at is 90% empty most the time.
I live in LOS ANGELES, it sucks here. Hope its better else where.
I am currently a student-athlete at the University of Louisiana graduating in a couple of days with a degree in business marketing. I have been working at Northwestern Mutual as a participant in their top ten nationally rank internship program and have nothing but good things to say about it. I will continue to work there this summer as I pursue my MBA and use my last year of eligibilty. I encourage all of my fellow 2010 graduates to take interest in this great company as well as an industry that many, including myself, may have over-looked. Its an excellent and available opportunity for those who qualify. Good luck!
Graduates can benefit from this information. This is also helpful to students who are still studying since they have advance information on employers' expectation and about the job market. (However, things may have changed by then.)
Many employers now want strategic fit between employees and the company's culture. They also look for creativity and resourcefulness, among other things.
Candidates who do their homework by researching the background of companies that invite them for job interviews and information about the job demonstrate their keenness and questioning minds.
They make good worker materials.
Write a petition to the President to order companies to hire potential new grads with good training to help stimulate the economy. Happy new grads with mad training=increase in productivity=buying power.
These days no new grads get hired unless they know someone in the company to get your foot in to the door.
Write a petition to the President to order companies to hire potential new grads with good training to help stimulate the economy. Happy new grads with mad training=increase in productivity=buying power.
These days no new grads get hired unless you know someone in the company to get your foot in to the door.
This article does paint a rosy picture but that isn't the case. I've found that not only do you need the degree, job experience, etc but luck. it's as simple and complicated as that.i graduated in fall 2006 and was able to land a job shortly after i graduated. it was by luck i got hired and it could've gone the other way and i would've ended up like so many other college grads out there.
I too find college to be way over rated. The amount of time and money you spend really means squat, maybe unless you're going to be in the health profession. my advice is for high school juniors and seniors, if you are going to shell out the money to go to school, consider the major you are choosing wisely and see what opportunities are out there. like i said, most health professions are the safest bets at this point.
I disagree with this article. The job market is still bad. I graduated from college 2 years ago with a degree in information systems. My college didn't teach me enough to even get an entry level job as a programmer. I have been working on learning the things I didn't learn. They don't accept your class work either. And having an internship is not enough in this economy. Most of the time all is what i see are jobs that require 2 or more years of work experience. The media and the government needs to quit hyping the value of a college degree as there are not enough jobs to meet all of the graduates. It is all a scam to make the universities, the banks, and the government richer. Plus, that corporate america and the government loves outsourcing jobs to india and china, our situation will only get worse. A college degree is no longer the way to the american dream, it puts you exactly where you are without one working at wal mart.
Hey Dan....... You got hired before the recession began and probably got that new job before the end of 2008 and maybe before the collapse of those infamous financial institutions, so your generic advice is of no help to recent grads whose industries are either still in survival or recovery. A better suggestion would be to obtain a graduate degree in a field that pays more and will be in high demand for at least the next ten years. Jobs are few and far between for experienced professionals with Master's and PhD.s so save the conventional wisdom for a more appropriate time. Like when Federal Reserve interest rates are at normal levels, depreciation is no existent or when the debt of foreign governments doesn't greatly effect the U.S. economy despite good macroeconomic data that suggests this recovery has legs!
Your statment is not correct English grammar. You can't end a sentence with a prepostion- "I have given almost up." That is in correct. The correct way to say that is, "I have almost given up." It is not big deal, I am justpointing out a minor problem with your comment- it doesn't take away from your overall message.
I'm going to agree. I'll be recieving my degree in culinary arts food service management in a week, and I know that a degree in culinary arts is a waste of the 64 grand that I paid for it. To say the least, it's now WHAT you know, it's WHO you know. Networking is a key player in this game. Get to know people, who they are, what they do. Get a business card. I did. Already had a great job offered to me after I graduate. Also, be really flexible. Having some BS degree from some high name school isn't going to get you 100K a year. I don't mean to wreck your dreams, but we are in a recession. You won't be making that kind of cash until you hit it big.
Thats advice to everyone, not just the message I'm replying too. Congrats to those graduating, best of luck in the job hunt. Wish you went to those networking events as school now, did ya?
Age discrimination exploded in the last 3 years. Firing most older workers is illegal but the Law is seldom enforced. A college graduate today has 11 times more chances to land a new job than a laid-off 50+ employee.
To Bob in Detroit, it is no different for people who elected other presidents and have lost their jobs or cannot find a job. It is called capitalism guided by the "invisible hand". It does not matter who is in office if a person wants to get a job it is up to the individual not what president is in office!!!!!
For recent college grades unable to find a job, I'd highly recommend going to teach English in a booming country like China, India, or Brazil. While you're there, do networking with local businessmen. I myself am in a "third world" country going to grad school (for free!) and it is amazing how easy it is to meet and form relationships with high-level businesspeople. Even in poor countries, there are still businessmen driving nice Porsches and living the good life. Trust me, being a young American, these guys are very likely to be willing to sit down and have a coffee with you.
If you tried to do the same thing in a typical American city, where you're just one of thousands of unemployed college graduates, you can't get face time with anyone.
I have another young 22-yo American friend here that went to a no-name college, that, just by being an American and having good social skills, has a finance job that pays $60,000 a year (in a country with way lower cost of living).
Even if you don't want to move abroad to network / job-search, if you can't find a professional job after college, I highly recommend moving abroad to teach English. It doesn't have to be a third-world country, I have a friend doing it now in the middle of Lisbon, Portugal and it is absolutely gorgeous.
I honestly think most college grads would be happier having a new fun experience abroad then spending a year working at Home Depot waiting for some crumbs.
The job market isn't gonna get significantly better for at least the next two years, so why not spend that time staying occupied and not having to worry about job-searching? Then, come home in a year or two with work experience, international skills, and a much healthier job market.
check out www.internbuzz.com simple site...pertinant information...and interesting blogs written.
For Joel: I recently graduated with a degree in Human Resources and can't even find a job in that field. This field is like y'all gotta know the "in crowd" to be able to get into any of the positions! I didn't know this until I finish my degree and heard a lot of people talking about it. Sheesh! I spent tons of money and now like Joel I will probably spend another 20k at a technical school and probably do better with that degree than a bachelor's degree. I HATE THIS ECONOMY!!!
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