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No one likes meetings, but we can’t stop having them

You might think the world doesn’t need yet another survey about social networking and the generation gap. But wait! A recent survey actually has a twist on the well-worn topic. According to a Citrix Online survey, when it comes to workers, Generation X is more likely to use social networking for business than Gen Y.

Yeah, you read that right.

Workers 55 and older are more likely to use social media for work on a daily basis compared to younger workers. And Gen Y workers are less likely to use videoconferencing and web conferencing tools at work.

What gives?

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Although the survey doesn’t explain why this gap exists, a possibility is that older workers are in higher positions that require more interaction. Go back 25 years and think about an old-fashioned Rolodex. The older worker with the higher ranking was more likely to have a collection of important contacts than the younger worker. Connections can be more important when you’re schmoozing.

The survey, which looked at the behavior and attitudes of workers in several countries, also highlighted another generational difference: Gen Y just doesn’t care about meetings. Gen X cares more, but nobody really thinks they do much good.

  • “Gen Y is least likely to think meetings are efficient. Only 29 percent of Gen Y workers think meetings used to decide on a course of action are very efficient, compared to 45 percent of  older [baby] boomers.”
  • “Gen Y is least likely to pay attention in meetings and barely half (51 percent) believe it’s very important to do so in meetings to decide a course of action.”

Yet, in what seems like a contradiction, Americans have more meetings than any other surveyed country and they believe paying attention is important.

  • “90 percent meet in person to communicate and build relationships, more than any other nationality.”
  • “Of those, 51 percent meet daily, compared to a mere 31% of French.”
  • “75 percent of Americans believe it’s very important to pay attention in meetings to decide on a course of action, compared to 50 percent of the French.”

So, if you’ve ever thought you have too many meetings, you do – compared to the rest of the world. Less than half of surveyed workers view meetings as efficient, but 85 percent of all workers are having them. Force of habit? Gluttons for punishment? Why, workers, are we doing this to ourselves?

And in another odd finding, 75 percent of Germans consider seeing the other attendees in the meeting important, but only 55 percent of Americans do. So Americans have the most in-person meetings of anyone, yet we don’t care that they’re in person.

Making sweeping assessments of any group is dangerous, especially when you’re looking at a survey. Yet, Americans’ attitudes toward meetings and the frequency with which we have them suggest that we’re stuck in a rut. If younger workers aren’t paying attention to meetings that few people consider effective, could the future workplace look much more different? Perhaps when Gen Y is in charge, meetings will be rare and more effective. Although this survey finds older workers using social media to do business, younger workers — who are the ones to usher in the era of Facebook — might rely on technology for business interaction.

What do you make of this survey? Is American begrudgingly married to meetings? Do older workers really use social networking for business more than younger workers? Do you think the workplace of the future will reflect these results?

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Anthony Balderrama

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Anthony Balderrama writes about hiring trends, workplace issues and job search tactics for CareerBuilder.com and its blog The Work Buzz. He was born and raised in Dallas (115° degrees isn’t hot!) before moving to Chicago (-23° isn’t cold!). He studied creative writing, therefore everything he writes is usually cut in half once he realizes he spent 400 words just on the intro. He knows that looking for a job and dealing with co-workers are not always fun activities, and reading about them is even less thrilling. That’s why he’ll take any opportunity he can to mention his favorite TV show or band in an article. Basically Anthony’s doing whatever he can to avoid hate mail.
229 comments
alicewilde88
alicewilde88

This is really interesting data. I never would have guessed that Americans value in-person meetings more than any other country. I find myself judging my own values against these to compare, and I think in-person meetings are important because they're an indication of how invested you are in the relationship, whether it be personal or for business. How do these stats relate to business training video and clips used by companies today? Food for thought! Thanks for posting this.

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Elmo Corriher

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David in Idaho
David in Idaho

Hate 'em. Hate 'em. Hate 'em. Just tell me what needs to be done and turn me loose. Should take about 60 seconds.

I don't need a committee to lean on. I don't need to chat. I don't need someone else to tell me what's a good idea and what isn't.

I'm a Boomer (62) and have never liked meetings, although the older I get, the less I like them.

Not old yet
Not old yet

No one ever disputes the Baby Boomers were born between '46-'64. That means Generation X'ers were born starting in 1965.

notanymore
notanymore

The meetings need to be quality not quantity, if you arein a very competitive work enviroment there needs to be goals clarified, successes acknowledged and negative habits and trends fxed or "brain-stormed" then meetings are vital.
As far as the "generations" there seems to be about 5 year blurs between the dates. For example, I'm supposed to be a Baby Boomer but my interests and point of view is Gen X, accross the board.
As for the Gen Y = lazy topic, I've seen it and had to work with it and it makes me want to barf but for the people i work directly with, I try to let them know how certain actions might be seen. Usually, if i do a goood enough job communcating it helps, but if its rejected I'm more than happy to" let the train come"....
I also believe there is an age correlationship here..I think its called an AGE SLOPE or GRID, the ages at approximately 18-25+ to 45-70+ (especially for men)
are consistantly the guys who seemed to be DEMANDING attention and respect. The younger guys are mostly driven by attention from girls and the old guys are driven by a need to continue to be respected, hence younger showing off and getting into trouble with the law and older guys consistantly being the ones who are rude, grouchy and the bane of much of the people in retail and food service industries..ok-ok I think what Im saying here is guys in this age bracket are more likely to want immediate gratification because of their fear they are missing out. ok enough rambling...

valtwin
valtwin

Meetings Meetings Meetings.....I've been to thousands and know for a fact that product difference, location and even the decade doesn't matter. They can be long or short.....doesn't matter. You see they all boil down to the same same no matter who is giving them. They all touch on 3 things:
1. Sell more stuff
2. Make more gross
3.Quit fucking up
And there you have it.....every meeting you've been to and every one you are going to in a nutshell. Meetings are nothing nore than the ILLUSION of doing work......and exercise in ass covering by the meeting giver.

JA
JA

Meeting Owners: If you don't need everyone, don't invite them. If you are not communicating what's important to the team, or if you are not enabling the team to be effective as a group, than you are failing at holding meetings. If you only need status, then you may be wasting everyone's time (except for the person that is currently presenting their status).

Attendees: If you don't find the meeting productive, make sure you let the organizer know what you would consider productive. Passive compliance is a lead weight and will not help move the team forward.

This problem doesn't sound like a generational "thing". This sounds like a problem that could arise anywhere that isolated members gather to figure out how to look productive.

We are all in the same boat, and we are all here to help keep it afloat and moving forward. Something is wrong if time is not being spent with this result, so clean house whatever your generational category may be.

JS
JS

Gen x, y, z who cares!!!! A waste of time sorting into buckets! Democrat=liberal, Republican=rich. What a waste of time! We ARE individuals…all with many good points and concerns…but too busy with our labels and buckets!Guess we all need to feel we belong to something, even if it doesn't get us anywhere?!?!?

TRAZZZ
TRAZZZ

I'm 58 and have been in middle management for 10 yrs. We have a " production" meeting once a week at the same time on the same day.
Nothing new ever comes from it.It is generaly a rehash of everything that has been said before.If something new is introduced,no one follows through to implement the decision.We have meetings because:we always had meetings.
The ISO 9000 book say's we're suppose to have meetings! Even if they are useless!
By the way; the company is about to go under.Maybe they can meet and discuss why and where the inefficiencies are. MAYBE THE MEETINGS!!!!DUHHH!

Lesley
Lesley

For me, I'm on the high end of Generation Y, and I think most meetings are poorly planned and a waste of time.

A meeting can be an effective place to ensure everyone is on the same page when it comes to budget, campaigns, and results we're getting, etc. However, in my experience, meetings have become a place where people create unnecessary dialogues documenting who they know and why they're more important than another employee instead of building a team.

We had weekly Monday meetings at my last position - and just 1 example of why I left - we were woefully short on meeting bills many months, and needed to decide who got paid priority in our grape purchase (winery), and what we were going to do. One entire meeting focused on our Vice President (we had 3 owners, 1 VP, and 2 employees) telling us he had dinner at a small restaurant, and he's playing golf with the chef, so we'll be fine. We were already on that restaurants wine list, and already sold regularly to them .....so why did I need to spend 45 minutes in a meeting to hear about our VP's upcoming golf game?

The winery is now out of business, and the owners are being sued like crazy - hah!

Carlos
Carlos

We don't need too many meeting, once a week it's okay, just depend of what kind of business line we are. Sometimes once a month it's good, sometimes not. Anyway the new generation is loosing communication skills, now is better to hit the computers o cell phone buttons than shaking hands, making good relationships in person and look to the eyes or talk to someone directly on the phone, the technology is separating us and cutting the beauty of the relationships.

Joe
Joe

Since when does an opinion poll decide what is important? I dislike meetings more than anyone. Given the high pace and volume of workload in our do more with less mentality is seems like just another time killer from getting the work done.
That said it is sort of like asking football fans what their football strategy should be. Many (most?) say pass on every play because those plays make the most yards. Running the ball is boring and for losers.
What most fans fail to understand that a running play for say six yards makes the play action pass (fake to a runner)on second down more effective. I makes the defense hesitate to watch out for the run at the line of scrimmage (where the ball was hiked), it gives the receivers more time to get down field, a delayed pass rush and more time for the QB to find and complete that long exciting pass play the fans so dearly love. But is was the run before that made that possible. Fans are not coaches and surveys should not run business unless they are about comsumer preference or they are linked to defined outcomes such as meetings are causing failure in the workplace. Just not liking them is sort of telling us the obvious.

sue
sue

Gen X'ers are older than 55? That’s baby boomer range and not a Gen X. Gen X is at the center of the social media, not Gen Y. Facebook was began by a Gen Y kid but he doesn't solely represent the vast media sites, social networks and search engines created by Gen X'ers. Google was begun by Gen X'ers. Gen X is still the generation that accomplishes a lot but receives very little credit. Ignored and overlooked. Stuck in-between the new entitled generation and the loud baby boomer generation and they continue to quietly develop new social media.

Bill T
Bill T

What's with this "Y" and "X" crap? They have meetings because they don't have a clue how to do their jobs, period! A "meeting" makes the person giving it feel important. I worked for 17 years in a family owned company that made millionaires out of 7 separate families. THEY NEVER HAD A SINGLE "MEETING"! Not one. This country is finished. I've never seen so many fools that can't do their jobs anymore. Service isn't lacking, it's non existent.

Lesley
Lesley

I love your response!

I learned so much from my disaster of job that I used to have. They were so focused on appearances and meetings, that the owners didn't have a clue what licenses they needed to run the business, what state did the most sales, even how much the bottles cost to produce.

Those of us who weren't "important" enough to attend the multiple weekly meetings (I was invited to only 1 a week, thank God), left, and the company is now almost out of business because they don't know how to run it.

Perfect lessons in what not to do from there...

aimee
aimee

I always just thought of meetings as a necessary means to understand that the person on the other end of the computer was a human being from time to time.

Once you have met e-mail contacts, it's harder to just get frustrated at things that might be poorly communicated via various faceless media with its lack of nonverbal context.

Tommy Subway
Tommy Subway

Oh...and old people need them because they are so out of touch that they never know what is going on...so they need things spoon fed to them.

Tommy Subway
Tommy Subway

I'm a 28 year old male programmer...meetings are stupid. They waste time that could be spent developing or doing other work. All I need is someone to outline what they want and then they can allow me to figure out the best action to take. I'm in meetings so much I never get anything done.

Ralph L Coleman Jr
Ralph L Coleman Jr

I stumbled upon this article and discussion this morning. I'm retired, so I have the time to read and analyze it without costing anyone else. My first reaction to the comments is why are you people involved in this discussion? If you are gainfully employed, you are doing this chit-chat on company time. If you worked for me, you'd get a reprimand at least and possibly fired. Not only is your generation narcissic, it is lazy, lacking in motivation, and hypocritical to say the least. Get off your buns, get away from the keyboard, and earn your pay. Or take your trivial pursuits elsewhere. And teach those bratty kids of yours some manners and how to respect others and their elders. Dispense with most of the ego-seeking after-school and full-weekend activities that have them hyper, on meds, and otherwise screwed up. Let them be kids, not mini-adults with all of the guilt trips.

Anon
Anon

I think it is funny that anyone would criticize Gen Y, exactly who raised that generation again...? Right. You ever stop and wonder why they are that way? Paren'ts always want better for their children, want them to have the best opportunities and it just seems like some took it to the extreme. The world has changed, much so during when Gen Y were growing up. Technology advances and "change" happens much quicker now, so that is what Gen Y is used to. I would never call an entire generation lazy :)

Randy
Randy

Most meetings are just a lot of brown nosing, and dog and pony shows for managers. Most meetings are for idiots. Yes, I am in mangement.

CHARLIE
CHARLIE

What most of you are saying and what we hear in most meetings is much like the kids in the Charlie Brown comic strip.

WHA WHA WHA!! WHA WHA? WHA WHA WHA.

Al
Al

Meetings can be very valuable if they are conducted correctly. Always have a written point by point agenda. The meeting leader is responsible moving the meeting to the next topic when the current discussion becomes repetitive. When the meeting is over, it's over, even if it's not at the end of the hour; an hour long meeting that takes only 20 minutes is fine.

Email is great for a lot of things, but not necessarily for discussions. I receive somewhere between 200-300 rmails a day and out of that there are maybe 10 ongoing discussion threads. I can't keep up with all of them so I skim and hope that I've skimmed enough and read the right parts to understand the discussion. I've had Gen Y'ers proudly and somewhat arrogantly tell me that they can handle large amounts of information because they can "multitask", but their claim just isn't backed up by the scientific findings about the way that the brain works. To have a fully engaged discussion with all of the nuances of voice, body language and group dynamics you have to be in a meeting. (I've used Video Teleconferencing, but it just isn't the same).

I don't know about th work ethic of "all" Gen Y; there are always exceptions to a general statement made about a group of people. What I have noticed in the Gen Y folks I've been around is that they remind me of myself and my classmates when I was in high school and college. There were kids at the school I went to who were entitled because their parents were rich. Now I meet a lot of Gen Y's who feel they are entitled even though their parents are just basic middle class and definitely not rich.

Are the parents at blame? I'm a childless boomer generation bachelor, but from what I've seen of my friend's families, the parents need to at least share the blame. Too many middle class parents used their home equity to buy the fiction of being rich for their children. Now that the Gen Y kids are adults and on their own they can't figure out why they shouldn't still be living the coddled lifestyle. That's not to say that the Gen Y'ers are blameless, once they realized that being an adult isn't like living at home with mom and dad they should have stopped whining and started learning what their parents didn't teach them.

I for one don't mind too much that there are a lot of Gen Y'ers who won't be able to make the grade in the workplace. It just makes me all the more valuable and able to run political, social and psychological rings around the Gen Y'er who might be my boss. I'll be glad to be their surrogate parent and make everything alright as long as they're willing to pay me big for all of the years of hard work it took me to gain experience in my job.

fwaz f a a alfhd
fwaz f a a alfhd

good day,happy new year,dont eat at work,drink only founten water or tap water and leave it running for 1 minute,be home before night time,going out night time is only for emargency. and make it a law for the loved ones. do your own work as much as possible. dont make a person belive that he have to wear eye wear, never wear sunglasses. mettings are allways hellpfull if you try to brine storm words wich are said in the meeting.
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naturegirl77
naturegirl77

Have to agree that meetings in general are a complete waste of time. They normally involve one “leader” blabbing about topics that need to be addressed, and then one or two loud-mouths in the group who voice their unabashed opinions on the subject. Fortunately, I work for a company where most communication & suggestions are done through email. It works wonderfully, and each person is able to thoroughly explain their thoughts. It’s a highly effective way of getting feedback from coworkers and bosses – much more so than meetings. It also allows for multi-tasking. The entire company doesn’t need to stop production for some long meeting where half of the employees are daydreaming. The topic at hand can be addressed over a period of a day, when each individual has the chance to reply to the emails in between completing other tasks. I’m a much bigger fan of the e-meeting, rather than the live meeting.

Richard
Richard

We don't make anything anymore in the US. There are not only fewer blue collar jobs, but also there are fewer management jobs that require "in the field" or "on the factory floor" contact. Some people who are lucky enough to have a job, regardless of generation, may spend twenty to thirty percent of their time in meetings. If meetings were abolished, only to be replaced by more "efficient" emails , tweets etc, the need for employers to hire people might decline another ten to fifteen percent. Is that what americans want?
We need to drastically alter our tax structure to encourage manufacturing,
e. g. place a much higher tax on the super rich in exchange for a serious reduction in the corporate income tax and a commitment to infrastructure investment. If you think we meet a lot, become an expat worker a country like The Netherlands where life and work is one big meeting. People are generally happier than Americans, and their country appears to be much more modern in outlook and appearance. Workforce productivity is higher than in the US, and civility is more pronounced than it is here in the land of extremes.

Joe
Joe

A survey done in a vacuum means nothing. There are a lot of things I don't want to do but are necessary. What if you take a survey that says American get more flu shots than the rest of the world but most American don't like them? Do you surmise we take too many flu shots? Does it matter that maybe fewer persons get the flu? Outcome is relevant.
Social networking is fine if used appropriately but too many people get off track and use it for entertainment. Meetings because they are formal bring more state holders to the table. Organizations are so complex today that often important info is widespread thus larger groups are unfortunately necessary. A meetings forces more focus that sociall networking might otherwise. Better run meetings are the answer because I doubt as a tool they are going away.

jimmy mesker
jimmy mesker

Hey folks, this crap about GENs and their stereotypes is just that. I have known many people of different ages that could fit interchangeably into the GENs that have been conjured up by popular media. Instead of allowing yourselves to be categorized and seperated by labels, how about concentrating on how you can be a more effective and productive individual. I can think of no other more effective means of division than general labels and stereotypes assigned to people. Know your strengths and use them. Know your weaknesses and own up to them and correct them. Instead of complaining about others' percieved shortcomings, exemplify and demonstrate what you believe are positive traits by living them in your personal and professional lives. Everybody knows what a winner looks like and wants to emulate them. Do you possess or portray the characteristics and abilities of a winner? If not, don't blame a label; blame yourself and do what it takes to be successful and to inspire others to do the same. There is a great song out there called "Signs". Listen to it sometime and decide for yourself instead of others making the decision for you.

Bundgaard
Bundgaard

Most here who want to put people in groups of generations in the job, probably are not the ones making the money for the company (they have too much time on their hands). Also the meeting should only be called a couple of times a year, except for news editors and the like; in engineering only have a meeting with the ones actually doing the engineering in groups usually about 2-3 people, and that is required. The only other meeting should be held when a major customer has filed a major complaint, so instead of using FACE BOOK time to write about the hair do, they should all be called on the floor and asked to explain anything they know instead of waisting time. I was in charge of education in IBM and I have never had any problem with teaching computer chip manufacturing to young, old and in between, that is truely up to how I manage it, but if anyone is sleeping in my class they wil be the center of attention now and in the future, to be sure they do not loose attention span--into La-La Land.
And if they text, or look at movie in/on phone or e mail from company computers, they get fired, that is how simple it is and should be, --I regret sometimes what my education of chips has done to the world, and yes, they are lazy at times, they look at those of us who actually know something like if we were their parrents.
And a baby boomer is a very sad description of generations parents who were actually responsible (without pills) when the food source was low--should we start saying" Nigger" again--why not same level!(I am after all from the whitest country in the world)
And finally after visting hundreds of universities in (US CDN) I find that the BS and MS do learn something from the past usually not very much for the future, Thus the reason you should listen to real "now" "at the moment ideas", I do not mean twitter when someone is going to the bathroom again in 6 hours!!!!

Carl L.
Carl L.

A well know university years ago did a study on business meetings and concluded that most of them were staged for people who would rather talk than work, with people who would rather listen than work.

Jamie
Jamie

I would like to suggest that everyone keep in mind that these are statistics it's dealt with large groups of the populations. It's Quantitative study.... if it was a case by case it would be Qualitative. Just because the majority tests one way, doesn't mean the whole group does.

john schmidt
john schmidt

Let me get this straight--there are 156 "comments" so far, it's 10:40 monday am, it's obviously not 'lunch' YET, break should be over already, SO WHAT ARE YOU PLEOPLE DOING WASTING YOUR EMPLOYER'S TIME AND RESOURCES BITCHING ABOUT YOUR JOBS ??? AT LEAST --YOU HAVE A JOB. If you will be so kind to send me your business address I would like to apply for your job--and as my daddy used to say-- give a day's work for a day's pay.

Gottaagree
Gottaagree

Okay... lighten up John. You're clearly very passionate about this but no need to get mean about it. Some of us aren't at work, work other shifts, live in different time zones, etc. So you can't presume that all are wasting time on this site.

Would have loved to make a recommendation on a job for you but since you only get one chance to make a first impression, kinda doubt that the hateful/aggressive approach will work for ya.

Paolo-Pablo
Paolo-Pablo

Meetigs are mainly BS, but big on EGO. There are too damn many self appointed chiefs and not enough Indians! People today are into "anal-nasal retention" with every detail in life to an excess....being right is not a matter of trying to contribute tothe group as it is displaying some type of genetic superioroty. Heaven forbid that you are wrong, ever, we simply cannot have that occur.

Just tackle the job....win, lose or draw and keep the Mickey Mouse down to the minimum.

Mike J
Mike J

Generation Y created the now dominating all life social network Facebook. It always goes that the older generation will discount everything the younger generation does because "it's not how it's been done for years". Well that is what's called evolution. I'm a Gen-X and embrace both the old world techniques and practices yet recognize inefficiency and embrace new technology like a Gen-Y and will continue to keep up because you have to. I feel lucky to be from the Gen-X because I know a deeper history and past from my parents and grandparents where Gen-Y seems to know little of things from the 60's. Yet I also know who Justin Bieber is. It's also great fun to do what any teen something can do on a computer while showing them an analog way that they've never even seen.

Jay Joyce
Jay Joyce

Most meetings are done so the "boss" will see these people putting the meeting on as doing "something". Most meetings could be reduced, but then it would not be as important sounding if it only took 10 mins.

Say it, show it, & move on. Once the boss sees you run a meeting, let everyone get back to work. To much or too long lets every one drift off & avoid future meetings. Get some thing done or don't do it.

Tan
Tan

My experience, as a Gen Y former Senior Business Consultant for one of the largest, most prestigious companies in the world, of working with Baby Boomers and Gen Xers:

• They come to you with work they claim will take a long time, perhaps two weeks. You get it done in a day or two, and they're flabbergasted. How can this be?
• You use innovation, technological savvy, and pure efficiency to get your work done extraordinarily quickly, thoroughly, and accurately, because you like doing a good job but you hate wasting time.
• You then ask for more work, but they tell you you've done everything that needed to be done. Perhaps they give you some of their workload, but you get that done in an hour too.
• Meanwhile, the Baby Boomers and Gen Xers spend the week diligently working on stuff that would take you maybe a few hours.
• They then catch you surfing the Internet / falling asleep, since you've just done a week's worth of work in half a day, but are obligated by outdated company policies / traditions to stay in the office and "put in the work" -- a focus on the appearance of busyness rather than actual productivity and results -- and, seeing you not appearing busy, they accuse you of being lazy.

Cultural differences, I suppose. Baby Boomers and Gen Xers tend to define themselves by their careers, so spending a lot of time and giving the appearance of diligence and hard work is of utmost importance to them. Gen Yers tend to define themselves by a wider range of measures outside the traditional "job-nuclear family" continuum, so efficiency is of the utmost importance to them -- can't get a lot done if you're stuck at work doing menial tasks all day. They focus on optimizing work so as not to waste time, but sacrifice the appearance of busyness and diligence in so doing.

dht923nh
dht923nh

Arrogance is unbecoming... many would hire two less qualified people to do the work you describe because they are personable and team-oriented, which you'll have a tough time convincing folks you are with the attitude you are taking on this forum.

That said, there are all kinds of jobs for all kinds of people, and you sound like somebody who needs to be in a different role to maximize your potential and be happy and fulfilled doing so. There will always be whiz-kids; eventually your ability to be ahead of the curve will flatline, and we'll see where your diplomacy gets you then.

See you in the meeting!

better place
better place

Just curious, how many of you bashing baboons are on the clock right now??? Hmmmmmm. Get to work people and stop complaining. I’ ll go back to my finals because in the world today associate degrees are worthless and bachelor’s degrees say you might know something, master degrees are better but a doctorates you are educated and worthy of a “GOOD” job. So I’ll keep learning and being grateful I found a paid internship even though its minimum wage, and I still work waiting tables, and I will be grateful I had this opportunity challenge myself and become something I can be proud of.

marie
marie

well said!
I'll work hard on my masters degree as well, hoping to one day get a phd. And no I did not have my parents pay for my schooling. I worked jobs just like everyone else.

Meeting Master
Meeting Master

Everything we do is a "meeting" of some sort. The important question to ask ourselves and to keep in mind is... "who are we being?"
Almost any meeting requires some sort of balance between "the task" and "the relationship." people don't seem to get this. We need to get a better handle on human performance and "where we are at" and "where we want to go" and "how are we going to get there?"
Improve our listening skills, our processess, and our frame of mind, only then will we see much more fruit / productivity from the many meetings we participate in.

marie
marie

As a generation Y member, I definitely agree with the comment that older gen Yers are completely different that younger gen Yers. We didn't have cell phones and computers as kids like the younger ones. We developed our communication skills much like the gen Xers.

Yet, we still embrace new technology and ideas because the world is changing everyday and so will technology. I work with all baby boomers and Gen Xers at my work place. I'll be the first to tell you that whenever we get new computers or programs, they all come running to me because they don't want to teach themselves the new stuff. Yet, you're calling me the lazy one? I don't think so.

I do understand that not all generation xers or baby boomers are this way. But don't generalize that all gen Yers are lazy and spoiled either.

Gen X Marine
Gen X Marine

Whiny GEN Y bitches. A place of employment is where you go to achieve goals, produce revenue, and EARN a living. Not an amusement park or day care center to wipe your ass and cater to your every whim. Shut up, show some respect, pay attention, and GET TO WORK. And turn your freaking cell phone off for 5 minutes too!!

Doug
Doug

As a Baby boomer, I can tell you there are probably too many meetings but the bigger problem is inefficient, poorly organized and poorly run meetings. Too many Managers, especially middle managers, have no idea how to properly conduct a meeting. Most meeting run far too long and actually reduce productivity as they leave more questions than they answer. Start a meeting by stating what you are going to talk about, talk about it and then say what you just talked about. Assign specific duties and state expected results by specific deadlines. Then go to work. That should take about 30 minutes. If the meeting actually does something to move things forward, people respond.

Em
Em

Just because you don't like meetings, doesn't mean they aren't useful. Project assignments necessitate a meeting. Unless you want a dictator arbitrarily assigning things, it's nice to be given the opportunity to speak up if you'd prefer to have a project or decline it and give someone else a shot. For those of you thinking an email would take care of that business, if you prefer having 25 emails that transpire over 3 days over a conversation that lasts 5 minutes in a meeting with a concluding decision, well, then there you have it, inefficiency abounds.

dana
dana

there's another category for those born between 1954 - 1965 called Generation Jones. i was born in 1963 and do not consider myself to be a baby boomer. Aside from that, I do think we Americans hold too many meetings. My calendar is full of meetings where we gather to regroup about everything we just emailed about smh lol....

holygeez
holygeez

I'm reading these comments and laughing. Its like being in elementary school - "Girls are better than boys!!" "No boys are better than girls!!" Get over it!! There are people in both generations who are lazy, and who are hard workers. Thats the way it is. Shut up about it already!!

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